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Drew tried the super-slow thing for a while. His Med-X Leg Press was made for super slow training. I never cared for the whole idea of super slow. What really irked me was the attitudes of some of the super-slow advocates, basically saying unequivocally that their method was the ONLY effective way to train, and anything in conflict with their philosophy was wrong.

One of the things that I will always remember is having a conversation with a super slow guy ( he was friends with Drew) and he couldn't believe that I actually ENJOYED training! He was dumbfounded. I also remember that Bob once wrote an article debunking some of their theories. This was at a time when the super-slows were coming into prominence. They also used to have a dress code- I don't know if they still do- but they would travel in a group and attend trade shows looking like a bunch of Alex P. Keaton young republicans from Family Ties ( necktie included.) I also think that they had a rule about making any noise while training--no grunting, or noises of any nature. Maybe things have changed. It just seems that the impression I got was that many were kind of arrogant, smug types who talked down to others, and who had the physical appearance of being unable punch their way out of a paper bag. I could be wrong, but I don't see how moving a twenty pound weight ten seconds up/ten seconds down in the seated press was going to build any appreciable strength.

They also used to have a philosophy of being against any type of cardio work. That is just plain silly. Any exercise program that does not include some form of aerobic/cardio- especially for trainees in the 30s, 40s and beyond, can only be described as misguided at best. At least that's my opinion.

Like you said, Jgriff, there is more than one way to make gains. As long as one works hard, makes progress, and trains consistently then whatever "system" using is successful. Even if you are making progress doing super slow, and if you still enjoy going to the gym and training then there's nothing wrong. What was annoying about the super slows ( or the slow pokes or whatever you want to call them) was the fact that they made no bones about the fact that their method or system was "the best and only way to train, and anyone who disagreed with them was wrong." Probably the most point about training is finding what works for you, and going out and doing it, even on the days when you might not feel like it. When I first trained with Drew, I was in my late 20s, and I had never trained to failure before. It was an eye-opener to say the least. The way Drew practiced high-intensity training was adopted from Dr. Ken, but not exactly the same. They both developed their own sytem, and the results speak for themselves. And Max Bob's method of training is different from Dr Ken's and Drew's. The wonderful thing about training ( actually there are many wonderful things about training) is that all three men use a method that is similar though not identical, but the results are the same. And none of them have ever stood on a soap box and proclaimed their method is "the best." And, not coincidentally, I can't think of three people who have had more success training others. And most, if not all, of the super slows would not last more than a minute training with one of the above three men.